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huskerinct
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« : Feb 07, 2008 at 21:20 »

I don't know if this is the right board, but I'm sure nutN will find a home for it.  I was curious to know how much it costs, approximately, to build your own table.  10 person, suited speed cloth, no race track, without cup holders.  The legs I can get at a restaurant supply store, fairly cheap, so I don't need those.  I am not handy with woodworking, so I may end up having someone make one for me.  Cost is an issue, so if it is a lot more to have one made, maybe I will try to do it myself.  Thanks in advance.   
ps I looked for info on here, but some posts were kind of old.  I did check Scott's forum as well.   
« : Feb 07, 2008 at 21:23 huskerinct »

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« #1 : Feb 07, 2008 at 22:34 »

I can do a basic table for around $250. The cloth anf foam plu shipping s where the money comes in.

2 sheets of birch plywood $40ea
folding legs $18
Cloth, volara, rail foam (YAT) $110 shipping to me $45
vinyl for rail with coupon $15
screws, glue staples $30
Bracing so the table dosnt sag $10

I could be wrong about the shipping cost, but it is pretty close. The key is that some items can be used for more than on table. What you do is this. Make a table 96"x48". When you cut out the rail use the left over oval of wood to build a 88"x40" table(assumeing a 4" rail) that will save you $40 for a peice of wood, you will sometimes have enough volara left over for the top. Put together a small cheap table and sell it for a couple hundred bucks. Helps recoup some of your cost. Also use coupons at JoAnns, wait for YAT to run a sale and use the discount code. Save money anyway you can, but do not go cheap on the wood.

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« #2 : Feb 07, 2008 at 23:29 »

I build the basic kind of table you are referring to as well. It seems to cost me slightly less

Plywood I get at Lowes its called Sanded plywood. it's 3/4 and perfectly flat. $30 per sheet
Same Legs
Same supplies from YAT, but I remember the shipping being less to me
Yinyl, Screws, Staples, Glue about the same

I have never used bracing, and the tables are stored en edge when not in use. It has been a year and a half and they are still perfectly flat.

So I've always told people they cost about $200 each.

Herb is right, you can use leftovers for future tables, especially Staples, Glue, Screws. If you know you are going to build more than 1, definitely order the supplies from YAT for both tables at the same time, saves on shipping

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« #3 : Feb 07, 2008 at 23:42 »

Between $200-$250, depending on what's available to you with regards to some materials.  In some areas plywood costs $25 a sheet, other areas it's $60.  Prices on vinyls can vary as well, depending on what you're looking for - anywhere from $8/yard to $30/yard (whisper is a popular choice at around $15/yard).  You can make an additional trip to Jo-Anns with another coupon and substitute headliner foam for the volara to shave some more off the cost.  For everything else I agree with herb's prices.  I remember about $25-30 for shipping, but shipping is getting crazy expensive & I haven't ordered in several months, so I wouldn't doubt it's $45 now.  Good luck with your table.
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« #4 : Feb 08, 2008 at 00:06 »

Great info, guys.  Thanks.  As far as sagging.....I have a cheap table that I bought from Dick's, it has a velcro strap, that when tightened reduces the sagging.  Could I just use one of those?  As for folding legs....I always keep the table out, only 2 times in 3 years have I folded it up and stored it away (fantasy football draft and new year's party.  Needed the space for a regular table).  I guess if it gets stored just once, then you need folding legs, huh?  lol  Thanks again guys.  If I ever do build one, or two, I will definitely post the pics.

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« #5 : Feb 08, 2008 at 08:54 »

Great info, guys.  Thanks.  As far as sagging.....I have a cheap table that I bought from Dick's, it has a velcro strap, that when tightened reduces the sagging.  Could I just use one of those?  As for folding legs....I always keep the table out, only 2 times in 3 years have I folded it up and stored it away (fantasy football draft and new year's party.  Needed the space for a regular table).  I guess if it gets stored just once, then you need folding legs, huh?  lol  Thanks again guys.  If I ever do build one, or two, I will definitely post the pics.

A nice alternative to folding legs without getting too expensive are these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TABLE-LEGS-BLACK-or-WHITE-or-TAPERED-BLACK-28-99-set_W0QQitemZ230218180403QQihZ013QQcategoryZ20485QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

or these (more $$$):

http://www.robur-usa.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=28&osCsid=523ef195804f5b09434a30f583e1c358

Sturdier than your typical home depot legs, but you can still pop them off pretty easily if you need to store the table.  I've found either you really like the look or you dont', YMMV...
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« #6 : Feb 08, 2008 at 09:02 »

Great info, guys.  Thanks.  As far as sagging.....I have a cheap table that I bought from Dick's, it has a velcro strap, that when tightened reduces the sagging.  Could I just use one of those?  As for folding legs....I always keep the table out, only 2 times in 3 years have I folded it up and stored it away (fantasy football draft and new year's party.  Needed the space for a regular table).  I guess if it gets stored just once, then you need folding legs, huh?  lol  Thanks again guys.  If I ever do build one, or two, I will definitely post the pics.

A nice alternative to folding legs without getting too expensive are these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TABLE-LEGS-BLACK-or-WHITE-or-TAPERED-BLACK-28-99-set_W0QQitemZ230218180403QQihZ013QQcategoryZ20485QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

or these (more $$$):

http://www.robur-usa.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=28&osCsid=523ef195804f5b09434a30f583e1c358

Sturdier than your typical home depot legs, but you can still pop them off pretty easily if you need to store the table.  I've found either you really like the look or you dont', YMMV...

Thnx, Irish.  Those are pretty much the kind of legs I will get.  I have a restaurant  supply store near me. They sell new and used stuff, and I can get a set of "X" based legs for $30.  Basically the same kind you see on a table in any restaurant.  It's also the same place I bought my chairs.  10 chairs, with padded vinyl for $35. 

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« #7 : Feb 08, 2008 at 10:06 »

I have a cheap table that I bought from Dick's, it has a velcro strap, that when tightened reduces the sagging.

I never knew what that strap was for.  I'll have to go dig it out of the box I threw it it.  Currently don't have a problem with table sagging, but definitly going to put the strap back on.

If you have buddies interested in building/owning a table, do a group buy for items ordered via internet.  I built one for right at $200 and would guess that $45-$55 of it was shipping costs.
I would also suggest the 30" or 36" (wide) folding legs over the standard 24" ones you typically find at HomeDepot/Lowe's.
Good luck.
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« #8 : Feb 08, 2008 at 13:27 »

When I get home I will post pics of my braceing. I use 1"x2" poplar and screw it to the table top prior to foam and cloth. I have not had a table warp, but I have had a rail made from cheaper plywood warp over a 6 or 7 month period. My first table did not have supports. The problem I was having is when people would stand up from the table, they would place their hand on the table to stand up. This would cause the table to bow down. I never did like this so I started putting bracing. I do not use the spare rail plywood as it makes the tables to heavy. The poplar is cheap and sturdy. shipping to me may be less, and just took a guess. I have never ordered for a single table. I order for 2 or 3 tables at a time, so it adds to the shipping. I also put handles on the bottom of the tables so I can move them around.

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« #9 : Feb 09, 2008 at 00:27 »

here is the bottom


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« #10 : Feb 09, 2008 at 01:01 »

I also used rails (2x2) on my ellipse.  It's a rock.  Not even a hint of any warping.


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« #11 : Feb 09, 2008 at 10:36 »

$200-$250??? Are you kidding me??? I don't mean to discourage you, but my table cost a lot more than that...

YAT: double what they said. Of course, I used ssc, whisper vinyl, and the highest quailty (most expensive) rail foam and volara. I know I could have cut costs here, but I didn't want to. But just my supplies from yat was $200. I think the estimates in this thread are pretty conservative/low.

Wood: Right about the same price I paid. I think I paid just a bit more, like $55/sheet x 2 sheets.

Legs: from Home Depot, $20.

I could go through the whole list, but I would have to get my receipts out and all. And, I did buy a couple tools along the way. In total, I spent $500. But the results were awesome. You can see pics in the buy/sell thread under 8 man poker table for sale. The reason I'm selling this for so much is because it cost so much to build. I was pretty surprised.

Some places I think I overspent: I painted the bottom of the table, but the paint I chose (an interior/exterior paint + primer from Behr I think) was sh%t. I ended up spraying it with spray paint I had around. I could save a few bucks on the volara with a slightly cheaper insert. Eliminate racetrack and drinkholders. I would NOT scimp on the rail foam, though. The nicest stuff from yat is very comfortable.

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« #12 : Feb 09, 2008 at 11:32 »

Total price for me without estimating:

YAT - 122.62 shipped
 cloth - 53.85
 volara - 26.85 (2-A)
 HD foam - 29.95 (add $14 for the 54" wide. I do 42" tables)
 shipping - 28.57
 discount code - 16.60 off

Lowe's - 123.13
 wood - 79.90 (3/4 birch at 39.95 ea)
 legs - 18.95
 handles - 5.90
 bracing - 9.00 (2 - 1"x2"x6' poplar)
 tax - 9.38

Joann's - 17.84
 vinyl - 16.48 (I use marine vinyl and use a 50% coupon. I like the marine more than whisper)
 tax - 1.36

staples, glue, and screws are hard to calculate as they are all used on more than one table.

Total cost based off of actual receipts from the table I did last month $263.59

you can add another $10 or $15 for the glue, screws, and staples.

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« #13 : Feb 09, 2008 at 12:57 »

My table cost around $100. fortunately for me, i work for a company that does auto interiors, sunroofs and rag tops so we have all kinds of colors of headliner and vinyl, padding and glue around the shop and usually the scraps is all i need to build a table. all i really paid for was the wood and the legs. i plan on building another table for the summer and hopefully have 2 tables going in the backyard
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« #14 : Feb 09, 2008 at 14:08 »

This got me thinking, so I went back and recalculated my costs, and I was low. At today's prices I am right in line with Herb's total, although itemized they are slightly different because of preferences. I build my tables 7' x 3.5' so I also can get the narrower rail foam. the cost for a 8' x 4' table is only $15 more for the wider foam, and everything else stays the same.

YAT
1    1" X 45" X 108" ECONOMY SIZE 60lb. HD Rail Foam (1.8/60lb)    29.95   
3    Holdem Casino Suited Cloth    53.85     
3    2-EO Density Volara - 1/4" Thick Closed Cell Foam    32.85     (I use the 2-EO)
 Subtotal:    116.65   
 Shipping:    40.35    (to SoCal)
 Tax:    0.00 
Total:    157.00

Minus 15% code $133.45

Lowes
$106.82 for Wood, glue, legs, staples including tax (my plywood is less)

Joanns
12.91  Vinyl /50% off coupon including tax

Total $253.18

When I built my tables I used the green rail foam from Joanns which I had to piece together. It came out fine, but I recently helped 2 friends build tables and they used the rail foam from YAT. MUCH NICER ! I am considering re-doing my rails with it.

Herb, I really like those handles, I think I will add those to mine


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